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#1 slfriedm

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Posted July 31 2009 - 6:36 PM

I was at Halibut Point today, not fishing - just walking with the fiancee. I saw someone catch a fish that I could not positively ID. I think it was a giant bergal...it was about 14 inches. I have never caught a bergal over 5 or 6 inches. From a distance, I thought it was a black sea bass but when I got closer I realized it wasn't because it was shaped differently and It had a few teeth like a tog but not a full set, plus it was not as bulky as a tog. The guy caught it on a herring chunk. Any ideas? I attached a picture.


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Posted July 31 2009 - 6:38 PM

You're exactly correct - that's the NY/NJ name for them. Their 'official' name is cunner and around here they generally call them 'choggies'.

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Posted July 31 2009 - 6:39 PM

I also hear some people call them 'sea perch' as well, although I have no idea why

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Posted July 31 2009 - 6:40 PM

That's a Cunner.
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Posted July 31 2009 - 6:50 PM

I thought I was right but I have never seen any that big. I know they are in the Wrasse family (same as tog) and therefore probably do get bigger but I had always known them to be tiny bait thiefs.

I am going to hit the harbor tomorrow, hopefuly for some of the striped variety...

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Posted July 31 2009 - 6:55 PM


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I thought I was right but I have never seen any that big. I know they are in the Wrasse family (same as tog) and therefore probably do get bigger but I had always known them to be tiny bait thiefs.

I am going to hit the harbor tomorrow, hopefuly for some of the striped variety...






If you were to see some of the specimens taken on party boats, you'd be really surprised...they can get 2,3 sometimes even 5 pounds. Huge compared to the ones you see taken along rocky shorelines.

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Posted July 31 2009 - 7:35 PM


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If you were to see some of the specimens taken on party boats, you'd be really surprised...they can get 2,3 sometimes even 5 pounds. Huge compared to the ones you see taken along rocky shorelines.




very good eating also

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Posted July 31 2009 - 7:36 PM

I caught a mondo cunner while jigging for cod in Boston harbor one spring. It was not 5 lbs but it was easily 2.5.
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Posted July 31 2009 - 8:48 PM


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very good eating also







Agree. Tasty little buggers, but those scales are tough!
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Posted August 01 2009 - 2:48 PM

question a very tasty fish, you just need a few to make a meal
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