circle hooks or bait holder hooks??
Posted April 01 2009 - 12:45 PM
Posted April 01 2009 - 1:56 PM
get withthe program...if you are gonna act like a dick, don't get all butthurt when someone points it out
Posted April 01 2009 - 4:50 PM
Posted April 01 2009 - 7:09 PM
C&R IS GOOD
Posted April 01 2009 - 7:33 PM
As for clams, net bags holding bait like salmon eggs or soft catfish baits are widely used and hanging a bag of clams under a circle like this seems a natural. There's even a salmon knot called the egg loop which opens up to hold a soft bait outside the hook circle and then pulls tight in perfect position for hooking that would work with clams.
Circles can even be used with jigs in this manner -- I have some tarpon jigs for the passes in florida which look much like the picture below.
Posted April 01 2009 - 7:37 PM
Most of times (80% - 85%) the circle hook finds home in the corner of the mouth where the maw structure is not as thick, so in theory you can get by w/ a smaller gap'd circle hook...
Here's a pic of a 38# fish I caught...you can see the hook wound in the corner of the mouth...but note I was using a large 13/0 circle hook as shown and it barely fits around the outer jaw...
Why take a chance w/ an under-sized circle hook? Again circle hooks don't always go to the corner of the mouth...
Posted April 01 2009 - 7:59 PM
By:MD DNR Fisheries Biologist Rudy Lukacovic
- Anglers caught 476 striped bass with conventional bait hooks and 640 with non-offset circle hooks.
- The size of striped bass caught with bait hooks were similar (16.7 in; 10.5 - 36.6 in) to those fish caught with non-offset circle hooks (16.4 in; 11.4 - 36.3 in).
- Thedeep hooking rate for conventional bait hooks over the course of the entire study was 17.2% and was 3.4% for non-offset circle hooks. This large decrease in deep hooking has been documented in several other Fisheries Service studies (24% for conventional hooks vs. 4% for circle hooks in summer 1996 and 46% vs. 11% in spring 1997).
- The deep hooking mortality rate for striped bass caught with conventional bait hooks in this study was 53.1%. The deep hooking mortality rate with non-offset circle hooks was 23.5%. Studies done here in Maryland have consistently shown the deep hooking mortality rate of striped bass caught with conventional bait hooks to be about 50% regardless of temperature or salinity (57.7% in 1995; 41.0% in 1996 and 56.3% in 1997).
- Overall, 9.1% of the striped bass caught on conventional hooks died whereas only 0.8% of the fish caught on circle hooks died.
Posted April 01 2009 - 8:17 PM
The reason I'd be interested EBH is stickly for worms in the sound estuaries. I like circles for chunk and clam and even eels but I can swim a worm better if I can get him up the shank on the barbs. Thats why for me it would be handy.
Posted April 02 2009 - 8:19 AM
Have you tried making your own baitholder barb? Try soldering, or wrapping on with thread and then nail polish, a half inch piece of light wire with half of it sticking up at a 45 degree angle facing the eye of the hook - that should keep the worms from sliding off. I've never seen this done for holding bait in place, but it works well for artificials.
Posted April 02 2009 - 2:49 PM
Posted April 02 2009 - 3:13 PM
What he said^^^^^
Posted April 02 2009 - 4:25 PM
Originally Posted by KOSS
As I said before it depends on the shape of the hook and its ability to accomodate the fishes jaw. What circles are you using?
I've been using Gamakatsu on the rigs that i've been making.