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#16 SRF

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Posted March 19 2009 - 8:48 AM

After shipment through the pipeline, gasoline is typically held in bulk storage terminals that often service many companies. At these terminals, the gasoline is loaded into tanker trucks destined for various retail gas stations. The tanks in these trucks, which can typically hold up to 10,000 gallons, usually have several compartments, enabling them to transport different grades of gasoline or petroleum products. The truck tank is where the special additive packages of gasoline retailers get blended into the gasoline to differentiate one blend from another. In some areas, ethanol may be "splash blended†in the tanker to meet environmental requirements. When the tanker truck reaches a gas station, the truck operator unloads each grade of gasoline into the appropriate underground tanks at the station.

Can I tell which country or State the gasoline at my local station comes from?

The Energy Information Administration (EIA) cannot definitively say where gasoline at a given station originated since EIA does not collect data on the source of the gasoline sold at retail outlets. The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company’s refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 167,000 retail outlets across the nation, about one-third of these stations are "unbranded†dealers that may sell gasoline of any brand. The remainder of the outlets are "branded†stations, but may not necessarily be selling gasoline produced at that company’s refineries. This is because gasoline from different refineries is often combined for shipment by pipeline, and companies owning service stations in the same area may be purchasing gasoline at the same bulk terminal. In that case, the only difference between the gasoline at station X versus the gasoline at station Y may be the small amount of additives that those companies add to the gasoline before it gets to the pump. Even if we knew at which company’s refinery the gasoline was produced, the source of the crude oil used at that refinery may vary on a day-to-day basis. Most refiners use a mix of crude oils from various domestic and foreign sources. The mix of crude oils can change based on the relative cost and availability of crude oil from different sources.

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Definately an eye opener.

Lukeoil is russian , does this mean they could possibly be selling american fuel to some extent? And vise versa with Exxon/Mobile which is American based?

I guess if you didnt want to patronize stations that use foriegn oil it sounds almost impossible. But I guess you could avoid stations that send the profits overseas


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#17 serrot40

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Posted October 12 2011 - 7:40 AM


I used to always use wawa gas stations, But for the last 6 months every time I would fill up, my check engine light would come on about 20 minutes after leaving there. Then One day i filled up At the Super WAWA in Galloway NJ because I was driving on a almost empty tank. When I left there I drovv for 20 minutes my check engine light came on and my car started bucking like it was going to stall out. I made in into my driveway and thats where my engine shut down. I had to have it towed to my mechanic. My mechanic called me and told me my tank was full of water and gas mixed. I notified WAWA, they say they guarantee their gas.(Yea RIGHT) what they dont tell you is you have to pay for the damages out of your own pocket and they'll see if your intitled to get reimburst from their Insurance Co. Its now been 5 weeks since i sent in the paper work and still haven heard from them. They say Triple AAA is ther Insurance Co. doing the Investigation If you know anything about Triple AAA You'll know they dont like to pay. I dont know about you, But if I didnt have a second car I would have been screwed and out of a Job. WAWA and AAA can care less on how your going to get to work. It looks like this is going to have to go court. If this happened to anyone else in the galloway area. please let me know. Thanks.



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#18 serrot40

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Posted October 12 2011 - 7:49 AM


Thats not true, WAWA uses one gas transporter company for their deliveries in the central and southern NJ area. and that is Torrissi



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#19 Chief2

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Posted October 12 2011 - 7:55 AM

^1, this is a 2 and 1/2 yr old thread. 2, its your first post, would be nice for a BIT of an introduction. 3, EVERY gas station at SOME time will get some water in their gas. 4, I have used just about every wawa station in nj to fill my 2007 FJ Cruiser. It requires premium, so it is not like it's a very "lax" toleranced motor. I have never once had an issue.

Lastly, the check engine light will come on in any modern car if the gas cap was not properly replaced. To my knowledge, the check engine light will NOT come on with bad fuel. It may throw sensors, and codes, but I do not think it will throw JUST your check engine light. This also makes sense, because Wawa does hire a LOT of kids, so the fact that they might not know how to properly tighten the cap, it would throw your check engine light. For THIS problem, no matter what stations you use, you should know how many clicks your gas cap makes every time you fill. It only takes maybe 20 min. to turn the check engine light on, however it can take up to 3 days to turn it off once it's on, and the gas cap has been replaced properly.


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#20 TimS

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Posted October 12 2011 - 8:54 AM

Lastly, the check engine light will come on in any modern car if the gas cap was not properly replaced.


Bingo. If you don't shut off your car while fueling up, the check engine light will come on. If you start the car before the cap is back on, the light will come on. I didn't know this, I had a friend hook my Explorer up and check out my check engine light - it came bad "serious vacuum leak" - sounds bad...until you look up possible causes and "fueling up with motor running" is the first cause :)

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Posted October 12 2011 - 9:37 AM


gas is gas is gas and it all cost too much....



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