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#1 Ben Lippen

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Posted January 08 2009 - 10:44 PM

I am, and I think it sucks! Big from me.

From their website...

Versatex Trimboards® – Engineered Forever
Everything you wanted to know about the market’s premier PVC trim but were afraid to ask.
What is Versatex®?
Versatex is a cellular PVC product manufactured using the free foam extrusion process. Versatex is made from an exclusive polymer blend. Versatex cuts, routs, and fastens just like wood and has a density similar to white pine. Available in both a smooth finish and our classic rough cedar Timber Ridge texture, Versatex is available in an attractive low-gloss white that complements any home exterior.
Why is Versatex an ideal replacement for wood trim?
Since Versatex is made from PVC, the preferred plastic material for the building construction industry. It is strong, durable, but lightweight and easy to install. It is non-toxic, recyclable, and self-extinguishing. It will not rot, warp, delaminate, cup or twist. It is also impervious to salts, insects and many chemicals including some acids.

I dont know about the rot, or delaminate part yet, but this stuff cups and twists and warps all to hell. I've got 5/4" x 10" boards that are cupped an eigth of an inch!! And 18' long and twisted.

That's my rant for the night

#2 Plug and teaser

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Posted January 08 2009 - 10:49 PM

Never tried it. Now I never will. Someone has to be the Guinea Pig.

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Posted January 08 2009 - 11:40 PM

Thanks for the warning...

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Posted January 09 2009 - 12:16 AM

Time for the rep to visit your jobsite.....can you have Nitro video that if the rep shows?

Why did you change from Azek? My yard replaced Azek with Koma. More sizes and profiles with no difference in product.

#5 Nitro882

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Posted January 09 2009 - 8:09 AM

The builder supplied the material and it was less expensive than Azek now I know why.
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Posted January 09 2009 - 11:37 AM

I forget the brand name, but I bought some PVC based trim that cracked if you were'nt careful nailing it when the temperature was below about 40 degrees.
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Posted January 09 2009 - 6:27 PM

Versatex is not Azek!! We never really used anything but Azek before and after 4 days working with this "other" brand we will stick to Azek in the future.
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Posted January 09 2009 - 8:34 PM

Seriously, it's lighter than Azek. Must be less dense, hence the cupping.
It's crap I tell ya

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Posted January 09 2009 - 9:51 PM


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Seriously, it's lighter than Azek. Must be less dense, hence the cupping.
It's crap I tell ya




John, Thought the same as you but both Azek and This crap have the same density, Both at 0.55 G/Cm , I couldn't get any comp. numbers on Azek in regards to expansion, But you might be fighting there moisture content and the assosciated expansion, as I believe your probably talking about the circles. If ya google them it's pretty high, but I can't find Azek's comp. numbers. I know when we used Koma, we put keystones (4) in and that never seemed to be a problem. I believe that added some relief. Just some thought's.
Rob

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Posted January 09 2009 - 11:34 PM


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John, Thought the same as you but both Azek and This crap have the same density, Both at 0.55 G/Cm , I couldn't get any comp. numbers on Azek in regards to expansion, But you might be fighting there moisture content and the assosciated expansion, as I believe your probably talking about the circles. If ya google them it's pretty high, but I can't find Azek's comp. numbers. I know when we used Koma, we put keystones (4) in and that never seemed to be a problem. I believe that added some relief. Just some thought's.
Rob





Dig it Rob
Last night I went past the website and looked at the stuff you're talking about.
I saw no glaring differences. But I swear the boards, 18' from 1 x 6 to 5/4 x 10, and even the sheets of 5/4" x 4 x 10, are lighter than Azek.

I'm not worried about the circle trim. But now I'm wondering more about how much this material is gonna move...

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Posted January 09 2009 - 11:35 PM

BTW, we blind caulked the tops and sides of the windows before trimming

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Posted January 10 2009 - 7:35 AM



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Posted January 10 2009 - 12:24 PM

The Versatex is lighter than Azek regardless of what they say for density in the spec sheet. Noticeably lighter.
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Posted April 09 2011 - 10:05 AM

Hey guys, maybe 2 years ago they were different, but now they're the same thing, trust me, i make it!

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Posted April 09 2011 - 2:41 PM


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Hey guys, maybe 2 years ago they were different, but now they're the same thing, trust me, i make it!






So are ya saying that it's better now? I'd like to know, because it aint cheap......


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