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#1 rwalter7

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Posted August 24 2008 - 3:30 PM

Anyone know of a company that makes and sells good quality cross-cut and ripping hand saws. I've gone through 3 Home Cheapo specials over the last 7 years and have had enough of consumer grade hand tools.


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#2 derf

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Posted August 24 2008 - 4:14 PM

disston used to make a good hand saw

the last handsaws i bought i got a flea market ...

had them sharpened and still have them !!


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#3 tonymo

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Posted August 24 2008 - 8:45 PM

If you can find them, the disston select are nice, I'm not sure if they are still made. I bought mine 18 years ago and have not seen them since.

There is a company in England named Pax. Check out tools for woodworking******, they carry them. Don't let the price scare you. I paid around $70 back then for my Disston.

Traditionalwoodworker****** carrys some nice German made stuff ( Garlick saw company), also pricey, but probably worth it .

If anything, keep an eye on ebay for old, but in good condition Disstons or Craftsmans. You can usually tell by the shape of the handle, they really fit your hand well. Good luck!

Tony, writing it out is basically the same as if it were a hotlink. Please dont do it. Folks can figure things out, and then there's google :0 Ben



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Posted August 25 2008 - 7:59 AM

John,
What happened to my c&p?
No .com info there!


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Posted August 25 2008 - 8:01 AM

I'll try again... Made in USA BTW!!


Wenzloff & Sons Hand Saws
About a decade ago, Pete Taran started a renaissance in hand saw making with his Independence Saw Works. Pete only made a few models of back saws, but they were the first saws in a long time which could be reasonably compared 19th Century saws. Later Eddie Sirotich started making Adria saws, and raised the bar even higher. Making saws to this standard is technically challenging and labor intensive. Pete Taran sold out his business to Lie-Nielsen and returned to his engineering career. Eddie Sirotich is still making Adria saws, but in much smaller quantities as he once again pursues his engineering career full time. Thankfully, a new player has emerged to carry the torch. That player is Wenzloff and Sons, and the bar has been raised once again. As our customers know, we do not make wild claims about our products. We say with carefully measured words, that Wenzloff and Sons saws are the finest saws that have been manufactured in about 100 years. Wenzloff & Sons saws are truly the connoisseur's saws. Not only are Wenzloff & Sons making far and away the best saws available today, they also have a much broader range of sizes and styles than was ever offered by the other firms of the sawmaking renaissance. Wenzloff & Sons are the first of the new sawmaking firms to make panel and rip saws, and through a proprietary process, Wenzloff & Sons are able to taper grind their blades the way that fine 19th Century blades were ground.

Due to the extremely high demand and limited production for these saws there are severe delivery delays, right now approx. 6-9 months. Orders may still be placed below, backordered items are indicated with B/O.
Wenzloff & Sons Brass-Back Saws (Made in USA)
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Wenzloff & Sons Back Saws
These Wenzloff and Sons brass-backed saws are modelled on the saws in the legendary "Seaton" chest, the only known intact 18th Century cabinetmaker's chest, now residing in a museum in Rochester, England. The original saws in Benjamin Seaton's chest were made by the long gone firm of Kenyon, but the Wenzloff & Sons saws are so good that it would be easy to forget that fact. Wenzloff & Sons brass-backed saws use only genuine tensioned brass backs, not the machined and glued on backs found on similar saws of lesser quality. Stock # Description Size Picture Price QtyBuy KS_9_16_WF Wenzloff & Sons Dovetail Saw 9 X 1 5/8" inch blade
16 TPI Rip $135.95
B/O KS_11_14_WF Wenzloff & Sons Carcass Saw 11 X 2 1/4 inch blade
14 TPI Rip $149.95
B/O KS_14_13_WF Wenzloff & Sons Sash Saw 14 X 2 3/4 inch blade
13 TPI Rip $189.95
B/O KS_19_10_WF Wenzloff & Sons Tenon Saw 19 X 4 5/8 inch blade
10 TPI Rip $219.95
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Wenzloff & Sons Panel & Rip Saws (Made in USA)
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Wenzloff & Sons Panel & Rip Saws Like the Wenzloff brass-backed saws above, these Wenzloff & Sons saws are modelled on the saws in the legendary "Seaton" chest. Like the original Kenyon saws in the Seaton chest, which were the best quality available at that time, the Wenzloff & Sons panel (cross-cut) and rip saws, are the finest saws of this type made today. Using their proprietary process, Wenzloff & Sons are the only modern sawmakers that we have seen who do a good job of tapering grinding their blades like period saws. Hollow grinding is critical to good balance, and even more importantly, to offering enough clearance to allow the saw to be used with minimal set.
Benjamin Seaton's saws were in the 26" size, but we find that smaller panel and rip saws are so handy that we have chosen to also offer these saws in a 20" size.
Stock # Description Size Picture Price Qty Buy KS_26_8_WF Wenzloff & Sons Panel (cross-cut) Saw 26 inch blade
8 TPI $284.95
Back Order KS_26_5_WF Wenzloff & Sons Rip Saw 26 inch blade
5 1/2 TPI $284.95
Back Order KS_20_10_WF Wenzloff & Sons Panel (cross-cut) Saw 20 inch blade
10 TPI $264.95 KS_20_7_WF Wenzloff & Sons Rip Saw 20 inch blade
7 TPI $264.95


The Connoisseur's Set One day in 1797, Benjamin Seaton walked in to the retail tool shop of the most respected tool maker in London, that of Christopher Gabriel. Unlike most craftsmen of his day, Benjamin Seaton came from a monied family, and he was able to buy an entire first class tool kit in one day. Amazingly, the original invoices from this glorious day of shopping survive in the Seaton tool chest. On those invoices are the 6 Kenyon saws which are still in that chest, the Wenzloff & Sons reproductions of which we are offering here. While such a glorious day of shopping as this will never be possible again, you can relive a small part of it by ordering the entire matched set of Wenzloff & Sons Seaton Tool Chest saws. $1199.95 Back Ordered


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#6 tonymo

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Posted August 25 2008 - 8:16 AM

Ben,
Not to get into a pissing match here,and it does not matter to me either way, you did it yourself WITH a hot link back in the Kapex thread.

P.S. I have done this w/o a problem before. I thought it was o.k to do that. but I just went to check the rules. Sorry.



#7 Ben Lippen

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Posted August 25 2008 - 12:10 PM

Ben,
Not to get into a pissing match here,and it does not matter to me either way, you did it yourself WITH a hot link back in the Kapex thread.

P.S. I have done this w/o a problem before. I thought it was o.k to do that. but I just went to check the rules. Sorry.



I did Tony, yer right. But that was before they were available for sale. It was not a sale site, but a demo web page. I would go back and delete it, but Tim doesnt like when we do that as it often makes all of the rest of the posts kinda meaningless.
I wasnt trying to bust yer balls. Just following the rules as the boss laid them down to me.



#8 Ben Lippen

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Posted August 25 2008 - 12:11 PM

John,
What happened to my c&p?
No .com info there!



I dunno John. I wasnt here



#9 KevinB

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Posted August 25 2008 - 3:15 PM

the Great Neck N2610 is a nice saw for the money, it's step above the stuff at home depot. I got one off amazon after seeing the manufacturing process on the history channel. I dont know how it would hold up after everyday use, but it's a good saw for the occasional user. If it were a car I would say it's a Toyota Camry with a good trim package.



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Posted August 25 2008 - 3:32 PM

I've aquired many over the years, but the only two I keep sharp are a rip and a crosscut made by Disston. Old as hell, but they will cut with ease, nice and clean.

The Wenzloffs that cd posted are sweet.



#11 tonymo

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Posted August 25 2008 - 3:35 PM

I did Tony, yer right. But that was before they were available for sale. It was not a sale site, but a demo web page. I would go back and delete it, but Tim doesnt like when we do that as it often makes all of the rest of the posts kinda meaningless.
I wasnt trying to bust yer balls. Just following the rules as the boss laid them down to me.

10- 4 knuckle dragger !



#12 Ben Lippen

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Posted August 25 2008 - 4:22 PM



#13 gadwall8

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Posted August 25 2008 - 5:06 PM

Sandvik and Irwin both make decent hand saws for short $ some are available at the site that's named after a major river in the continent directly below this one


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#14 GoBow

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Posted August 25 2008 - 9:06 PM

Sharpened a ton of Disston D23's way back in my tool & cutter grinder days. Every so often a D95 would come in... Rosewood handles and nickle steel if I remember right. I'd walk around the shop and strum a tune on it for quite awhile. The other guys in the shop never could make a saw sing...
Disston made some stainless steel handsaws that were pure hell to sharpen!


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#15 rwalter7

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Posted August 26 2008 - 2:24 PM

Thanks guys for the info.


Bob
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