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#1 jrs1418

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Posted August 23 2008 - 11:26 AM

Hey guys, once again new to fishing and the forum. Just wanna know if i'm doing this right for blue fishing. My buddy fishes a lot and says blues bite from mid water to top. He showed me a few rigs but without a floater the bait seems to just sink to the bottom and it gets eaten by crabs or something. So i was thinking if i connect a floater to my swivel and then my steel leader with hook/bait i'll get my bait off the floor and floating close to the surface. I plan to use a sliding weight so when I cast out the weight goes to the bottom, the bobber brings my swivel/line up on top and the leader/hook will float close to the surface. Here's a pic of what I mean. Is this ok or are there better ways or am i wayyy off.



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Posted August 23 2008 - 11:35 AM

Lose the float,if your chunking hold your rod,by holding your rod you can feel any crabs right away,just pull it way say a few feet,good chance if the crabs are eating your bait the fish are not there. try to fish moving water at all times,not saying you cant catch during slack water.


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Posted August 23 2008 - 12:01 PM

does the float scare them away or something?? Many times where i fish the water is dead still.. other times it moves pretty good. It's just during those still times i feel the crabs eating the bait.. i pull it a couple of feet and then a minute or 2 later their back on it.



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Posted August 23 2008 - 12:08 PM

does the float scare them away or something?? Many times where i fish the water is dead still.. other times it moves pretty good. It's just during those still times i feel the crabs eating the bait.. i pull it a couple of feet and then a minute or 2 later their back on it.

Try moving around say 50yrds to the right or left,if that dont work try an other peice of structure to fish.sorry cant answer your ? about the float never tryed it before.


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Posted August 23 2008 - 12:22 PM

THanks man, I appreciate it!



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Posted August 23 2008 - 12:34 PM

THanks man, I appreciate it!

No problem,im sure some others will chim in.


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Posted August 23 2008 - 12:39 PM

You could use lures as well


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Posted August 23 2008 - 12:59 PM

yea i have some kastmaster spoons i've been trying but no luck. The one i have is about 5-6 inches with 3 prong hook. THat work??



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Posted August 23 2008 - 2:16 PM

Try some Crocodiles...get some Poppers. Super Strike,Gibbs,even the cheap Tsunami talkin poppers work well,,just change the hooks,they come with light wire VMC`s,,get some VMC 9626 Perma Steels.


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Posted August 23 2008 - 4:17 PM

Try some Crocodiles...get some Poppers. Super Strike,Gibbs,even the cheap Tsunami talkin poppers work well,,just change the hooks,they come with light wire VMC`s,,get some VMC 9626 Perma Steels.

jrs, avoid the super strike and gibbs, find yourself a stillwater "smack-it"popper you'll knock'em dead with it... bluefish cannot turn away from it..


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Posted August 23 2008 - 4:27 PM

jrs, avoid the super strike and gibbs, find yourself a stillwater "smack-it"popper you'll knock'em dead with it... bluefish cannot turn away from it..



or you can just get a cordell cheaper then the smack it or all the other lures and also at the same time still have about a 65% chance of getting a nice sized bass also.



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Posted August 23 2008 - 6:00 PM

I'd bag the float. Either send the chunk to the bottom and deal with the crabs or free float one on a second rod, this way you work bottom, (may get a bass too) and the middle of the water column. If the tides running slow, the floater will also sink to the bottom but I don't like the float idea myself. If the tides ripping the floater will naturally rise up in the column. Good luck.



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Posted August 24 2008 - 4:10 AM

yea i have some kastmaster spoons i've been trying but no luck. The one i have is about 5-6 inches with 3 prong hook. THat work??



jrs -
Kastmasters are great lures.
Try using ones with single hooks rather than treble hooks. They're much easier to deal with, particularly with Bluefish.

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Posted August 25 2008 - 7:48 AM

Thanks guys, found myself a nice spot to fish in. I got rid of the floater and got many bites and landed 2 small blues.. like 1 pound each. THe guy next to me landed a 7 pounder and gave it to us since he doesn't eat fish. I filet'd them last night and had some nice frish fish filets. Not bad considering the water it came out of!!

Next question.. I got some 40 pound braided line and my knots keep slipping. I must have lost a million rigs just casting out. What's the best knot to use with braided? The line seems thinner and easier to come undone. I'm using a uni but maybe i'm doing it wrong.



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Posted August 25 2008 - 8:12 AM

Palomar Knot


The Palomar Knot is easy to tie, exceptionally strong, and very popular with bass fishing pros for tying on jigs and worm hooks. It's somewhat awkward to tie when using lures with treble hooks, but it is the recommended knot for braided lines.

1) Double about four inches of line and pass the loop through the eye.








2) Let the lure or hook hang loose and tie an overhand knot in the doubled line. Avoid twisting the line and don't over tighten.






3) Pull the loop of line far enough to pass it over the lure or hook. Make sure the loop passes completely over this attachment.










4) To tighten, pull the tag end while holding the standing line. Clip the tag end.


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