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South-Southwest winds are mean poor fishing?True or False and Why


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#1 HalG

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Posted July 08 2008 - 03:48 PM

I often hear that south winds are a negative for surf fishing. Help me understand why if tthis is so.
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#2 Drew C.

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Posted July 08 2008 - 03:54 PM

SW = cold water.

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Posted July 08 2008 - 03:56 PM

everyone has their opinions....im all about hi and lo tide.....not even....i leave the house at 5am with an attitude that im going to wipe out the sea.....also, just get out there and fish....being skunked is not a good feeling but not dropping a line doesnt help either......GET OUT THERE AND BANG THEM WATERS!

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Posted July 08 2008 - 04:14 PM

It depends....

"Depend not on fortune, but on conduct."


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Posted July 08 2008 - 04:15 PM


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SW = cold water.





Why would a south wind equate with cold water. Intuitively I would think south winds would be warm. And then how would you explain a north wind per water temp Drew C.

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Posted July 08 2008 - 04:19 PM

upwelling

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Posted July 08 2008 - 04:20 PM


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upwelling





What is upwelling?

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Posted July 08 2008 - 04:44 PM

Hal,


There's something called the Coreolus effect. When winds blow across water in the northern hemisphere, the current runs to the right and perpendicular to the wind. So, a southwest wind causes a current moving in the northeast direction. This current moves warm surface water off the beach and causes colder water to move up (upwell) from the ocean bottom. You end up with cool water replacing the warmer water. If the water is cold to start with, colder water will turn off the bite. If the water is really warm, the colder water will cool things off and make for a more comfortable temperature for the fish and might turn on the bite.


I like a strong southwest wind at times because it causes a strong surface current that just begs for a needlefish plug to be drifted across this current. The fish see this thing hanging in the current and just swinging side to side and I think they find it irresistable.

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Posted July 08 2008 - 05:24 PM

Doesn't upwelling also have the effect of bringing up nutrients from the ocean floor? Would this be beneficial or detrimental to fishing?

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Posted July 08 2008 - 05:37 PM


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Hal,
There's something called the Coreolus effect. When winds blow across water in the northern hemisphere, the current runs to the right and perpendicular to the wind. So, a southwest wind causes a current moving in the northeast direction. This current moves warm surface water off the beach and causes colder water to move up (upwell) from the ocean bottom. You end up with cool water replacing the warmer water. If the water is cold to start with, colder water will turn off the bite. If the water is really warm, the colder water will cool things off and make for a more comfortable temperature for the fish and might turn on the bite.
I like a strong southwest wind at times because it causes a strong surface current that just begs for a needlefish plug to be drifted across this current. The fish see this thing hanging in the current and just swinging side to side and I think they find it irresistable.






Thank you for a clear and cogent explanation Impalervlad. What upwelling effect would occur with a wind from the Northwest and how would your tactics change?

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Posted July 08 2008 - 05:47 PM


"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after." - Henry David Thoreau

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Posted July 08 2008 - 06:06 PM


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Thanx Bido. You prove that a picture can be worth a thousand words. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of information that SOL members have and are so willing to share with others. As I fish alone your collective help is so appreciated. Maybe one day I will find a mentor, but for now this is almost as good, maybe even more beneficial in many respects.

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Posted July 09 2008 - 12:55 PM

IMO, I say that W and NW winds are the best. W winds blowing at your back when facing the surf is my ideal conditions. Low traces of surf and clean conditions. W winds keep the swells offshore. Then I factor in the tide and time of day and go from there. I love W winds and will usually fish when they are ideal. 10-15kts. Plus it helps casting out in the surf!!! Some ppl will say W winds keep the bait off shore though, but I beg to differ and thats the least of my concerns b/c I plug like hell and, bait is for pansies!

Good luck to ya fishing Hal.
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Posted July 09 2008 - 01:19 PM

Here along the Jersey Shore I'll take any type of wind, with the lack of hard structure its needed to create advantage points to locate and find feeding fish.. Sure I have my favorites > like fishing jetty pockets during a NE Blow or a Strong NW wind during the fall to put a chill in the air and water temps to kick-start a bite.. I have seen too many times during a moderate W wind bait hanging tight to the beach inbetween the bars especially during a out-going tide..

Also note the prevailing winds during the memorable Mem.Day blitz here in Ocean County had SE Winds


* My least favorite would be a S or SW - just have not ever really did too much with those winds,, they are usually strong and they do chill and dirty up our waters...

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Posted July 09 2008 - 02:37 PM

Prolonged S or SW can be bad. But I have had some great fishing on the first day of a hard S/SW wind. You can bet that it will shut off real quick though. Also, I don't have a big problem with the cooler water itself, just the sudden swings. YOu know, 70 one day then 57 the next. Stays cool for a few then get some NE and it's right back to 70. then repeat... Gotta love the summer. Usually find that I can pick a few more bass with the cooler temps but it kills flukin'.


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