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#1 ocracoma

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Posted June 06 2008 - 9:33 AM

Do sand fleas really work?
I have been wanting to buy one of those scoop things that capture sand fleas. But did not want to spend money if they don't work.
Do they stay on the hook?
How do you hook them?
Can they with-stand the force of a 12 foot pole cast?



#2 Plug

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Posted June 06 2008 - 11:42 AM

Absolutely!

I've caught everything from pompano smaller than your hand to 30# rock on fleas. Orange belly/egg-bearing fleas are better than regular fleas. Molting "softshells" are the best.

Thread them on your hook lengthwise through the meatiest part of the body. They stay on the hook fairly good but they don't have to endure violent casting. Fish feed on them in close so fish them close.

If you have a cast net with fine mesh you have the best flea catcher. Spread the net on the sand just above the wave wash. Go down to the break and scoop up several shovel fulls of sand and throw them on the net. Gather up the net so as to bag up the sand. Drag it down to the water and dunk it until all the sand washes out. You'll be left with some debris and dozens of fleas if they are thick. Alot faster and easier than a rake.


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Posted June 06 2008 - 1:14 PM

what is the best way to fish fleas? I have always used them on bottom rigs with good success, but would they be more effect on a float rig?



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Posted June 06 2008 - 1:23 PM

Plug,
I couldn't have said it better myself. WTG

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I always used a top and bottom rig, plain hooked with a red bead to fish the surf. I have used them on float rigs with very little success.



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Posted June 06 2008 - 1:27 PM

alright thanks man, like i said i have always done good at EI with them, but it never made sense that I used a bait that burroughs in the sand on a bottom rig. But I guess im not gonna change then.



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Posted June 16 2008 - 5:10 PM

Absolutely!

I've caught everything from pompano smaller than your hand to 30# rock on fleas. Orange belly/egg-bearing fleas are better than regular fleas. Molting "softshells" are the best.

Thread them on your hook lengthwise through the meatiest part of the body. They stay on the hook fairly good but they don't have to endure violent casting. Fish feed on them in close so fish them close.

If you have a cast net with fine mesh you have the best flea catcher. Spread the net on the sand just above the wave wash. Go down to the break and scoop up several shovel fulls of sand and throw them on the net. Gather up the net so as to bag up the sand. Drag it down to the water and dunk it until all the sand washes out. You'll be left with some debris and dozens of fleas if they are thick. Alot faster and easier than a rake.


Great idea, Plug ! Thanks ! I'll have to try that.

When I first started reading, I was thinking "sure, catch sand fleas in a cast net".... but then I finished reading. It should work fine.

Now let's just hope that Audobon and DOW don't put sand fleas on thier lists of endangered species....

Thanks again.

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Posted June 20 2008 - 11:50 AM

Did you ever give them a try?



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Posted June 21 2008 - 3:55 PM

Great idea, Plug ! Thanks ! I'll have to try that.

When I first started reading, I was thinking "sure, catch sand fleas in a cast net".... but then I finished reading. It should work fine.

Now let's just hope that Audobon and DOW don't put sand fleas on thier lists of endangered species....

Thanks again.

Duane S
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Duane, be careful what you wish for.

One of the bird experts who gave a presentation at the Reg Neg last Tuesday mentioned that there were biologists who are interested in studying the small invertebrates in the wrack line. He hinted there could be new species found.

This scares me, might not be able to walk on top of some little sand dwelling creature, to small to see without a magnifying glass. Mean old humans.



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Posted June 23 2008 - 4:37 AM

Duane, be careful what you wish for.

One of the bird experts who gave a presentation at the Reg Neg last Tuesday mentioned that there were biologists who are interested in studying the small invertebrates in the wrack line. He hinted there could be new species found.

This scares me, might not be able to walk on top of some little sand dwelling creature, to small to see without a magnifying glass. Mean old humans.


Sounds like a brand new tool to not only stop the driving but the rest of the pedestrian traffic there as well,but of course,there will be none found behind "millionare row".. Are they still in "stall mode",Jim,or just bargining for more than they already have?



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Posted June 25 2008 - 9:52 AM

Sounds like a brand new tool to not only stop the driving but the rest of the pedestrian traffic there as well,but of course,there will be none found behind "millionare row".. Are they still in "stall mode",Jim,or just bargining for more than they already have?


Stall mode. Derb was most disgruntled I had ever seen him, frowned both days, and did not say much at all.

It was an off-hand comment by the colony nesting bird guy. I think it will be something they will try to pull out of the hat, if they get beat down by Congress. Since the "rack line" is the same in front of a house as it would be without a house, what a great way to close the beach in front of a house. Kids playing on the beach break up the seaweed strands and trample the microscopic organisms, the horror.



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Posted June 25 2008 - 10:34 AM

Of course we all know even a 4' break beats up the rack line far worse than any pedestrian could. But then, that kind of common sense logic doesn't deter them from designating overwash areas as nesting habitat...


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Posted June 25 2008 - 3:22 PM

I always use sand fleas. Free bait - and I use them to catch free cut bait. I fish them in the wash right at my feet almost. Nothing fancy for rigs. I use a fishfinder rig. I dont carry them. I just scoop one out of the sand as needed. Check out portsmouth island fishing forum-techniques for a good article on fishing fleas.



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Posted June 29 2008 - 10:57 AM

Fleas are great bait for alot of diffrent fish, heck even caught large 40+" drum on them



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Posted July 02 2008 - 10:21 PM

Duane, be careful what you wish for.

One of the bird experts who gave a presentation at the Reg Neg last Tuesday mentioned that there were biologists who are interested in studying the small invertebrates in the wrack line. He hinted there could be new species found.

This scares me, might not be able to walk on top of some little sand dwelling creature, to small to see without a magnifying glass. Mean old humans.


Hey again, Longcaster. You must've missed the "don't" in my "wish" post.

That's O.K. I have a good magnifying glass. Now, if I can just feel my way around, to find my glasses, so I can find it... Hope I don't squish a micro bug along the way. O.K., I found the glasses.



Hey! What's that noise?

Oh crap. I have another herd of Piping Plovers in the back yard.

I'm about tired of eating them little buggers. (they're mostly feathers and bones). But not too bad with rice, and Teriyaki sauce.



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Posted July 04 2008 - 3:41 PM

every bottom fish in the SE coast surf will eat a sand flea. i use half a minnow trap and scoot them up in the sand.