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#1 GJohnson

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Posted June 02 2008 - 6:25 PM

Last fall I redid the porch and put in plastic railing and columns. The old wooden ones were rotted and falling apart. I always had a flag flying on the old porch column and not sure how to properly attach a flag pole bracket to this plastic column.



Can't remember the name brand of the column - its not a HD or Lowes brand but from a supply house (Allied in Wall Township)

Here is a cross section of it


So if I attach a bracket, it looks like I won't be able to screw into any meat and it would eventually deform the plastic. Most of the metal brackets have 3-4 mounting holes with maybe one of them in the center of the bracket and the other 2 or 3 on the sides.

Anyone know if these companies make special brackets that attach to the columns for a flag? Anyone come across a similar situation.

I have a flag on the detached garage - but I like to see one flying when I'm sitting on the porch.


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Posted June 02 2008 - 7:33 PM

I'd run bolts right through it with the biggest washers you can fit on both sides. Maybe if you disperse the load over a big enough area, you won't get the flex I imagine with the wind.
You have some extra pieces, right? Give it a shot on the spares.



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Posted June 02 2008 - 8:50 PM

Use a piece of AZEK and make a plate to go over a larger area of the flat part of the column. Then attach the bracket to the AZEK.


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Posted June 04 2008 - 2:28 PM

^^^^ as nitro says but I would use the same plastic as the porch column white pvc and epoxy it to the column.


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Posted June 04 2008 - 4:00 PM

^^^^ as nitro says but I would use the same plastic as the porch column white pvc and epoxy it to the column.

I seriously doubt you could find the same material easily available. And even less, in a small amount. But I like the idea of epoxy. I've ben struggling with the idea myself, since this was first posted. The problem being the lack of a flat surface to mount to.
Personally, I think I could get screws to bite, and I think I'd try that with a piece of Azek or Coma, or whatever, about 3" x 5", epoxied and clamped first. Then mount the bracket.
I went thru a bracket a year for my first three years here til I got pissed. No matter the cost, they all would break because of the weight of the flag, wet and waving. Last one that broke, I held back in place, and used a 1" boring bit in my cordless drill, and just followed the angle...





If ya get a piece of flat stock to stick, ya might even wanna do this

And yeah, I saw the chip fly out and knew I'd gone too far


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Posted June 04 2008 - 5:48 PM

Why not just lash it on with duct tape?


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Posted June 04 2008 - 6:41 PM

Just use self tapping hex head screws like these with out the washer .



They will go through the flat part of the metal fine .



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Posted June 04 2008 - 6:49 PM

Um,... What flat metal?


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Posted June 04 2008 - 6:57 PM

Exactly where are ya hoping to mount the flag?
Here, or here?


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Posted June 04 2008 - 7:00 PM


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Posted June 04 2008 - 7:08 PM

I seriously doubt you could find the same material easily available. And even less, in a small amount. But I like the idea of epoxy. I've ben struggling with the idea myself, since this was first posted. The problem being the lack of a flat surface to mount to.
Personally, I think I could get screws to bite, and I think I'd try that with a piece of Azek or Coma, or whatever, about 3" x 5", epoxied and clamped first. Then mount the bracket.
I went thru a bracket a year for my first three years here til I got pissed. No matter the cost, they all would break because of the weight of the flag, wet and waving. Last one that broke, I held back in place, and used a 1" boring bit in my cordless drill, and just followed the angle...

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If ya get a piece of flat stock to stick, ya might even wanna do this

And yeah, I saw the chip fly out and knew I'd gone too far

Come on, Just take a carriage bolt, cut it off at the nut and then epoxy the washer to it and then epoxy it to the post


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Posted June 04 2008 - 7:48 PM

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I am guessing that in your line of work you use these posts alot?


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Posted June 05 2008 - 5:18 AM

I am guessing that in your line of work you use these posts alot?



Roger we do some of this stuff . The posts we use usually have aluminum inserts .


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Posted June 05 2008 - 8:03 AM

Exactly where are ya hoping to mount the flag?
Here, or here?

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Wanted the flag on the bottom section (flat portion of the column). The black inserts seem to be a plastic molded piece used to keep the column square and to center then aluminum pole in the middle. Not sure how well they would hold any screws and if my memory serves me right they may be 1 ft section throughout the column - so there is no guarantee I'd hit them.

The aluminum column in the center is about 1" from the flat surface. I may be able to get a self tapping screw in it - but I'm worried that the bracket will just flex when the flag is in a heavy wind. Ultimately loosening the self tapping screws.

With wood if the bracket came loose you fill the hole and repaint - with plastic I'm kinda stuck


I do have a rectangular piece of white trim that I routed the corners of to make it decorative that I could place over one side of the column - but then I need to attach that. The trim is made out of that whit plastic fascia board trim.


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Posted June 05 2008 - 8:15 AM

I do have a rectangular piece of white trim that I routed the corners of to make it decorative that I could place over one side of the column - but then I need to attach that. The trim is made out of that whit plastic fascia board trim.


Mount that to the post with pvc cement and screws. Then mount the bracket to that. You could then even drill the mounted piece out to accept the flag pole, like I did.


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