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#16 2d

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Posted April 07 2008 - 1:20 PM

There is a certain rockwll in the SFbay that one can catch rockfsh durng wintr like small linkcod and capazonies("coded because of spot naming regs.")

there's actually a couple of them where you can catch rocky species all year round.



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Posted April 07 2008 - 6:05 PM

I know, I PM a member on the location I am refurring to.



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Posted July 14 2008 - 12:21 PM

I've just started on the rockfish quest myself. No success yet but expect snags to rocks and kelp.


Any success with the rockfish from shore?



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Posted July 15 2008 - 4:19 PM

Winter time we used squid for bait.



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Posted July 15 2008 - 10:13 PM

I have lived in that town my whole life and have fished most of the known and not so known spots but I never knew that you could catch rock cod!
I am really trippin' right now.


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Posted July 16 2008 - 2:38 AM

Many years ago I witnessed a couple of guys walking up a steep grade half way to Santa Cruz from where I live. They had a gunny sack full of cod/bass they caught from the rocks. Does anybody on these forms have experience doing this?

I mainly use lures but once in a blue moon will bait something up if the returns seem impressive.

Do you look for certain underwater topology( depths) in the areas you decide to fish against the from the shore?

What gear do you use as I mostly spend my time loosing expensive lures that the rocks take from me.


I often go rock fishing literally from the rocks in Monterey, Carmel, Carmel Highlands & Santa Cruz area. I do pretty well usually.
As for losing your rigs due to the snags, I kindda go over board with my set ups but it does catch lots of fish and almost never lose the tackles in this way. Here you go... I use 80 lbs power pro braid as a main line with 100 lbs anti-abrasion Cajun leader holding 1 dropper loop and 3 oz torpedo weight at the bottom (200 lbs power swivel). 11 ft G-Loomis surf rod 1324S. I usually use the whole squid as a bait then I just cast into the middle of the kelp beds to fish. When I hook up, I just horse the fish in upto the rock. The 80 lbs braid line cuts through the kelps like a sharp knife.
My fishing buddies did said to me that it's not fishing, but it's a "HAULING" (I happen to agree). But hey, I catch big rocks & ling cods and don't lose my tackles very often. I guess I don't give the fish much of a chance.
Even with those guys, they still enjoy my Vermilions (yes, Vemilions from the shores) at the dinner table, you don't need to go on those party boat to catch the rockies.
I reside in Belmont Hills in the bay area but I travel down to Carmel to rock fish because it's a sure thing until there's striper run at Pacifica & SF beaches (God, it's a middle of July but still nothing, Sigh!).
If you have a time, I'd go early in the morning for the Rock fishing at low tides then hit the Monterey and/or Santa Cruz/Capitola Beach (you dont' even need waders down there, it's warm and toasty) for stripers at high tides on the way back to the bay area.
Carpe Diem and Ichthy!
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P.S. Thank you for the PM's on all those Rockcod fishing spots, you know who you are.



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Posted July 16 2008 - 10:17 AM

Now that is a great post.



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Posted July 16 2008 - 4:13 PM

Even with those guys, they still enjoy my Vermilions (yes, Vemilions from the shores) at the dinner table, you don't need to go on those party boat to catch the rockies.

If you have a time, I'd go early in the morning for the Rock fishing at low tides then hit the Monterey and/or Santa Cruz/Capitola Beach (you dont' even need waders down there, it's warm and toasty) for stripers at high tides on the way back to the bay area.


I've been on a few of those rock fish party boats but I usually end up getting seasick. I will definitely give this a try! Thanks for the great info!!!



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Posted July 16 2008 - 7:42 PM

any places in SoCal that might have some rockfish?>


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Posted July 17 2008 - 12:02 AM

I've been on a few of those rock fish party boats but I usually end up getting seasick. I will definitely give this a try! Thanks for the great info!!!


I used to get sea sick about 99% of the time I went out on the ocean (including ab diving). Then I found the magic pills. I take one Bonine the night before I go out and another after I wake up to go fishing. This works for me about 99% of the time.

It's much more fun when you can eat, drink, and fish with your friends without that "death would definately be an improvement" feeling.


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Posted January 04 2009 - 6:00 PM

I often go rock fishing literally from the rocks in Monterey, Carmel, Carmel Highlands & Santa Cruz area. I do pretty well usually.



As for losing your rigs due to the snags, I kindda go over board with my set ups but it does catch lots of fish and almost never lose the tackles in this way. Here you go... I use 80 lbs power pro braid as a main line with 100 lbs anti-abrasion Cajun leader holding 1 dropper loop and 3 oz torpedo weight at the bottom (200 lbs power swivel). 11 ft G-Loomis surf rod 1324S. I usually use the whole squid as a bait then I just cast into the middle of the kelp beds to fish. When I hook up, I just horse the fish in upto the rock. The 80 lbs braid line cuts through the kelps like a sharp knife.



My fishing buddies did said to me that it's not fishing, but it's a "HAULING" (I happen to agree). But hey, I catch big rocks & ling cods and don't lose my tackles very often. I guess I don't give the fish much of a chance.



Even with those guys, they still enjoy my Vermilions (yes, Vemilions from the shores) at the dinner table, you don't need to go on those party boat to catch the rockies.



I reside in Belmont Hills in the bay area but I travel down to Carmel to rock fish because it's a sure thing until there's striper run at Pacifica & SF beaches (God, it's a middle of July but still nothing, Sigh!).



If you have a time, I'd go early in the morning for the Rock fishing at low tides then hit the Monterey and/or Santa Cruz/Capitola Beach (you dont' even need waders down there, it's warm and toasty) for stripers at high tides on the way back to the bay area.



Carpe Diem and Ichthy!



Pete



P.S. Thank you for the PM's on all those Rockcod fishing spots, you know who you are.



Hi Pete,



I'm just getting into surf fishing and it sounds like you have the same general approach I'd like to take (hauling), except you have experience. If you're up for it perhaps I could tag along when you guys go fishing some time. I live in Livermore, just got an 11' Daiwa Saltiga Surf from Hi's tackle, with a Sealine Black 5500 bri spinning reel. I am pulling together the rest of my gear and your suggestions look good to me.



Thanks for the help, Brad



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Posted January 05 2009 - 6:07 PM

Man, somebody dragged this thread up from the depths of summer LOL.

I really enjoy catching rockfish from shore. It is a simple form of fishing but it can be quite challenging. At times, it is downright frustrating. But the reward is worth the hard work and perseverance.

I do most of my shore rockfishing between Santa Cruz and Big Sur but you can catch them anywhere you find rocks or kelp. I tend to use bait (usually squid) but I’ve experimented w/artificials too. It depends on the conditions and the location, if I am going to use lures. For example, I wouldn’t use a lure if there is a strong surge, a mixed swell, excessive turbidity, etc. Because those situations make the fish hunker down in their holes and/or rely moreso on scent than sight.
My standard setup is a 10ft spinning outfit w/50lb Spiderwire Stealth. I will either use a 3-way swivel or a dropper loop. With the 3-way swivel, I tie it directly to the braid then use a pre-snelled 5/0 octopus hook and 15lb mono to the sinker. Other times, I will use a barrel swivel to attach 5ft of 30lb mono and tie a dropper loop inline. The 3-way swivel is for extra-snaggy spots or when there’s limited visibility. The dropper-loop rig is for less-snaggy spots or when the visibility is good. I always use torpedo sinkers: they cast farther, sink faster, and snag less. My favorite weight is 3 ozs but I also use 2, 4, and even 5 ozs if the conditions require it.

I am normally an anti-bait guy. But when it comes to shore rockfishing, using bait IS like using a lure. Because you have to constantly hold your rod, avoid snags, and move with each wave. I call it the “give and take†method. As each wave builds, it sucks up the slack and tension increases---take a step towards the wave or lower your rod tip to point towards the wave. After the wave crests, you will have a lot of slack---take a step back or raise your rod tip to absorb the slack. The give and take method serves two purposes: it decreases the number of snags and it increases your bite-to-catch ratio.
If you do it properly, your sinker will not skip across the bottom as much---and that will limit snags (a sinker is much more likely to snag if it is constantly dragging across the bottom). It will also increase your catch ratio because you are in constant contact w/your rod---you feel every little tap (especially true if using braid!) so you’re better prepared to set the hook.


I actually went shore rockfishing near Big Sur for three hours on Saturday. My friend and I caught five fish: 2 cabezon, 1 kelp greenling, 1 grass rockfish, and 1 blue rockfish. All fish caught on frozen squid. We kept the grassie because my buddy had to bring home dinner (my freezer is still full of rockfish, lings, cabs so I released my fish).
I haven’t been updating my shore rockfishing album lately. But here are a few pics of creatures I’ve caught off the rocks recently. http://s449.photobuc....20Rockfishing/


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Posted January 05 2009 - 6:20 PM

^^^^^
Very good info Sin Coast!


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Posted January 05 2009 - 10:03 PM

Great post. I was going about all wrong. I'll have to try it again.

Thank you Sin Coast.


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Posted January 05 2009 - 11:54 PM

Great post Sin Coast and welcome. This is a great place to learn and you just proved it.
Great pics too. I'll add rock fishing to my list this year along with learning to fish with plugs for stripers.