New Guy - Oregon Surf Caster
Posted December 26 2007 - 11:09 PM
Registered primarily so I could conduct searches & learn but But thought I'd post so maybe if there are other NW experienced surf casters on here they may be able to provide some tips. Actually, region probably isn't important regarding my question?
Fish mostly for Steelhead in smaller rivers in Oregon but recently became interested & tried a few times to fish for Surf Perch, referred to by the locals as "pink tails". Mostly fished them with sand shrimp (pumped locally by me) but have used some artificial grubs (Berkley baits). I guess we have an occaissional Striper role through here as well but they're more miss than hit.
I'm not set up with the 12' + surf rods so casting the 2-7oz pyramid is not viable at this time. I'd like to use my 9' medium weight casting rod spooled with 10-12lb mono, that I use for Steelhead fishing, so...
What is the best weights/rig set-up for this rod/line combo? Anyone fish with this light of set-up?
Nice site & thanks,
Posted December 26 2007 - 11:56 PM
Posted December 27 2007 - 12:41 AM
What I was told by a couple of the locals was to fish about 2-3 hours before the incoming tide until high tide & try to cast beyond or into the area that looks to have disturbed sand; sound right to you? Oh, they also said to move a lot, they're either there or not.
Are you talking a Carolina rig similar to Bass rigs?
Posted December 27 2007 - 11:31 AM
I'm up in WA (Tacoma) and I've been heading down the same road as you. I started with some steelhead rods and then picked up a "Predator" rod from Cabelas and an Ocean Master surf rod on the marketplace here. These are VERY different rods believe me. I found the Predator to cast much further than any of my steelhead type rods and was much more sensitive to boot.
I'm waiting for a decent forecast so I can run to the beach to do some surf casting myself. Let me know what you find and I'll do the same.
Posted December 27 2007 - 01:18 PM
in the south where the water is clearer and calmer the fish are spooky so they use very light line and long leaders. up here I can get away with 12# fluorocarbon leader that's only 18" long.
and don't use shiny hardware such as hooks or connectors. i even use a black tungsten bullet weight.
usually you dont have to cast very far for surf perch.
Posted December 27 2007 - 04:12 PM
Are you still rigging the Predator rod with a Carolina rig with egg sinker or pyramid sinker? Would my Abu Garcia 6500 be a good fit/balance for this rod? I like the idea of staying light but I'm willing to do just about anything to increase success.
Posted December 27 2007 - 04:26 PM
I've been using my Abu 5500 with that rod and like it. I think a 6500 would be fine as well.
I haven't made it to the coast with it yet though. I have been told that fishing anything but an incoming tide is a waste of time for red tailed surf perch up here. Also I've had clam necks STRONGLY recommended as bait. I haven't tried either as yet but hope to in 2008.
Posted December 27 2007 - 05:09 PM
Posted December 28 2007 - 07:54 PM
I was curious if you guys look at the offshore buoys for wave height & have correlated that with success? I know when the Umpqua Buoy is 4' or less, not very often, the surf on the beach is manageable for lighter tackle.
I'll have to save clam neck (end trimmings) to see how that fairs as bait.
Have a good weekend,
Posted December 31 2007 - 01:07 AM
Other bait like sand crabs, mussels, squid, and anchovies also work well, but I , too, prefer to use grubs.
P.S. Your gear is perfect for perch. I prefer to use a "ultralight steelhead" type of spinning rod (8.5 feet, 4-12 lbs test, 3/8 to 1-1/4 oz). They are more fun to fight on that gear. The heavy rodsa are for when they are far out in the surf or for freezer (not fun) fishing.
Posted December 31 2007 - 01:23 AM
Posted December 31 2007 - 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by Pinfish
once while i was through plugging for stripers with my big gear, i rigged it up with a sliding sinker and grub and was able to catch a couple of perch in the big surf.
Howdy Pinfish. Was that today? Any luck with the stripers?