Advice for Cancun shore fishing
Posted December 02 2007 - 05:51 PM
I've been mining the forums for what I could find, and now want to bounce questions around, and solicit any advice to make this a good time. I'm figuring we'll try both the lagoon & beach, though my son may not be able to throw far enough at the beach.
It's unclear what size rods to bring. Here's what I've got, mostly not high quality. I'm willing to buy new stuff if it will make all the difference.
11' Penn heavy 15-30# with a Jarvis Walker 7500 loaded with 60# braid
8' Shakespeare surf/boat rod with no ratings on it, with a Penn 710Z that needs new line (20+ y/o rig)
7' medium 6-14# Diawa rod & reel with 12# mono
6 & 7' ultralite's with 6 & 8# spools of mono each, what we fish with the most.
My son is a good caster with the 6' or 7' rods, but I'm concerned it might be too light for the circumstances.
From reading Thill's Cancun reports, and some other posts, it sounds a like a stock of Castmasters, Deadly Dicks, and Bass Assassins are good to bring. What sizes & colors? From what he says, maybe some 3" steel leaders would be prudent, any longer he says are spotted. It sounds like fluoro leader are simply a waste of time since enough of the common fish will slice it, not mention the cudas. We're also not too proud to throw bait, if that'll work. We bought the Diawa rig last year when we had a few hours at Key West, and had a good time catching small jacks & yellow snappers off a jetty with frozen shrimp.
Any suggestions or comments would be very welcome. I'd like to make this one memorable for the kid! (and myself)
Posted December 02 2007 - 07:13 PM
Posted December 02 2007 - 07:52 PM
Posted December 03 2007 - 09:39 AM
I also brought an 8 weight last year and caught some 'cuda on flashy epoxy flies.
There is also a tackle shop on the city side of the lagoon. Forget the name. It's close to the Ryu hotel. They also do charters from there. They have lots of lures and they tie flies too if you're into that.
Posted December 03 2007 - 10:13 AM
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Posted December 03 2007 - 10:19 AM
Posted December 03 2007 - 10:33 AM
Fish the lagoon for 'cuda and small jacks. Your son will not care how big they are. If he catches just one that is the only thing he will remember from your whole trip. Don't fixate on this fishing so much that it dampens anything else on your trip. Boat fishng is good but if your son gets car sick don't take him. He will surely get sea sick and that will be awful.
Best of luck. Concentrate on the side excursion type fun that Cancun is known for. Relax your fishing goals. This type of fishing thing will become more successful and exciting in 3 or 4 years when he is a little bigger, stronger, and more coordinated. - HPD
Posted December 03 2007 - 11:34 AM
Posted December 03 2007 - 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter
An 8 year old boy is pretty small but enthusiasm conquers all!.....HPD
Thanks all & HPD particularly for a very helpful & insightful post! I'm sure we'll do all the tourist things, it's just that getting away from the family (my mother in law and his 5 y/o little sister respectively) sounds like a pretty good plan. Especially when it's in the lagoon across the road and easy to go for a couple of hours without making a day of it.
He does get carsick & airsick occasionally, which is why I was thinking of a lagoon boat rather than deepsea, but the one time in FL we went on a drift boat, he took dramamine beforehand and didn't get sick despite fairly rough seas. We didn't catch a thing though. He's already a pretty good caster, willing to keep throwing poppers and Kastmasters at snappers for hours (as long as they're hitting), and at 50 lbs is strong enough to pick up his mother! And you're right, he could care less whether it's a bonefish or barracuda, he'll happily catch 6" sunnies for hours.
So, if the boy uses the Diawa, should I pick up another similar rig, use the 8' with the old Penn, or use my 7' ultralite with either 8# mono or maybe 15# braid? Leave the Diawa's 12# mono alone?
Thill fished from a bridge in this thread: http://www.striperso....hlight=cancun: "I'm not sure which bridge I was fishing from, but it is over the inlet where the two Pirate ships are docked, and where most of the boats go in and out of the lagoon through". Is this a good spot for us? it sounded like some large action.
What if I was heading out alone to the beach at dawn or dusk? should I be using the 8' or 11' rigs?
Posted December 03 2007 - 01:30 PM
found a dock with some light and threw out some shimp, instantly getting bites, u could not put the rod (8ft. spin 10 to 20#) finally cought a few small grouper 5 to 10# i released them all one was gut hooked and bleeding i threw it back and next thig i see is a 5 or6 ft reef shark come out of the darkness and suck up the fish , know some people are comming to watch and didnt belive my story till i cought the next grouper , i put it on a 10/0 gami and cut the belly and threw it out, not even a min latter here she comes picks it up and takes off to the darkness ,gave him 10 sec. and set up , the fight was on ,lasted about 5 to 10 min. and it was either tighten up or get spooled , i tightened up and pop its over, i was the talk of the resort for the week, awsome trip chris
Posted December 03 2007 - 02:27 PM
If the Daiwa's 12# mono is fairly new then leave it. If it is old, change it out with fresh 12-15# mono. Your 8' Shakespeare is a total unknown as to lure weight rating, action, and physical weight. If it is not a club I'd use it with the existing Penn 710Z and 17 pound mono. Maybe get some two ounce metals to use with it and also get some Roberts Rangers to cast far esp. in the early AMs by yourself. The 11' Penn heavy is probably not something you would want to plug with.
It doesn't hurt to pack one of the ultra lights and a handful of small jigs in the event you see some bonefish cruising by (they will be small).
If you WANT to purchase a very low priced good surf plugging outfit I would suggest a Daiwa Eliminator 9 foot 1-6 ounce and a Daiwa Emcast Sport reel. Put 20 pound Fireline on it. The pair should cost a bit over $100 and it would be of continued use if you do more serious surf plugging in the future.
Hope this helps - HPD
Posted December 03 2007 - 03:30 PM
I looked again at the Shakespeare, it's a medium action graphite-glass "Alpha X" BWS1350, 1985 vintage according to the Shakespeare archive. It's physical weight is 11.2 oz. Why mono rather than braid for the old Penn, would braid cut up the anodized spool?
My Celilo 7' ultralite is rate for 6# line & 3/8oz lures. What kind of jigs are you referring to?
Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter
Your 8' Shakespeare is a total unknown as to lure weight rating, action, and physical weight. If it is not a club I'd use it with the existing Penn 710Z and 17 pound mono.
Hope this helps - HPD