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#1 Lil'Rhody

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Posted October 05 2007 - 8:37 PM

I have seen advertisements that the Saltiga Blast has been replaced by the new Catalina-Z 4000/4500 reels. The new Catalina looks like the Saltiga Z and Blast reels except it has a darker body and differnet color spool and solid machined handle (Blast does not). Retail between $378 and $399 USD.
The reel is being described as having a waterproof gear box and schematics (see below) show multiple gasket seals to keep out the salt water. I know most of the higher end Daiwa spinners nowadays have the waterproof drag, but the sealed gearbox is new for a $400 reel....no?
Does anybody know if this reel is really waterproof? Could this be an nice mid-level alternative to the high-end ZeeBaas and V$ reels?




#2 High Plains Drifter

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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:08 PM

I had a hard time finding this reel using Google. It appears to be sold only by an Ebay seller so far. This MIGHT BE the reel I've dreamed of. Fairly tall and shallow spool. It probably cross lays line. NICE high retrieve ratio of 5.7:1. Large line capacity. A shade under 20.5 ounces. And yup, it looks like it might be "waterproof". I'll start a little bank account kitty and wait to see how it pans out. I'm hoping, hoping, hoping. - HPD



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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:13 PM

I went to Daiwa's website to see if I could find out more about this reel. There is no information at all about the Catalina, in fact they do not not even make any mention of it on the site. All I could find was information about the Saltiga. I copied some of the information about the Saltiga reel:
With a retail price of over $700.00, Saltiga spinning reels are not for everyone. But for a select few who take their saltwater fishing very, very seriously, there is simply no other spinning reel to consider.
Saltiga® SA-Z Features:


  • Digigearâ„¢ — Digitally designed stainless and bronze alloy gears
  • Dual, full-time Infinite Anti-Reverse
  • Zero Friction Mainshaft design for smoother, more powerful retrieve
  • Nitrided lip
  • Twist Buster® line twist reduction
  • Oversized, Titanium Nitrided, ball bearing line roller
  • Rigid aluminum alloy body, sideplate and rotor
  • Tubular stainless Air Bailâ„¢
  • Ultra-tough, machined aluminum alloy handle
  • 14 ball bearings plus roller bearing
  • Bail lock prevents handle and rotor turning during a cast
  • Machined ABS aluminum spool with Titanium
  • Manual bail rip for reliability
  • Sealed, water-resistant drag and body

I did not know that the Saltiga was this expensive. I hope that the Catalina is a lot less than $700! This seems like a lot of money for a reel that is not water-proof. Notice that the Saltiga does not claim to be water-proof. It is described as having a sealed, water-resistant drag and body. Not the same as water-proof. I hope that the Catalina is water-proof. Wish I could of found out more about it. I guess it is just too new and there is not enough info as of right now. Maybe someone out there knows more about this reel?



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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:16 PM

In case anyone don't know. The little diagram on the top left indicated how the water flows and gaskets.
Red - means seals, waterproof area.
First blue solid line - means the "great" water flow
Second dotted line - means "small" water flow



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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:22 PM

Specs for the Catalina -
Ultra-Precision Computer Designed Marine Bronze Gear
Super Metal Airbail
one piece machined handle
DigiGear
Zero Friction Mainshaft
Waterproof Housing for Reduced Maintenance
Rugged Advanced Levelwind
Gear Rati 5.7:1
Weight: 580G
Max drag Setting: 10KG (22LB)
Ball Bearing: 9 + 1 Corrosion resistant ball bearings plus one roller bearing
Line capacity: 16lb-330yds


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#6 HellRaY

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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:25 PM

HPD,
it does not have a long shallow spool. it is designed for jigging. it is not a surf casting reel.
here's a list of the surf casting reels from daiwa.http://fishing.daiwa....ory00=3,27,207
Bunker Head,
the catalina is a newly released JDM



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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:30 PM

HPD,
it does not have a long shallow spool. it is designed for jigging. it is not a surf casting reel.
here's a list of the surf casting reels from daiwa.http://fishing.daiwa....ory00=3,27,207
Bunker Head,
the catalina is a newly released JDM

What would be the design requirements for a jigging reel that wouldn't transfer to surf usage? Just curious. - HPD



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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:33 PM

What would be the design requirements for a jigging reel that wouldn't transfer to surf usage? Just curious. - HPD

based on the reels you used, they are always long shallow tapered spools- designed for distance casting. so i thought you might want to know that this has a short deep spool. it's for jigging from a boat offshore. here's another link
http://fishing.daiwa...asp?ItemID=3964



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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:44 PM

Thanks Ray. A profile view of the Catalina suggests a spool design that is not really deep and narrow. It's not extremely tall like a Daiwa Emblem or Emcast, Tica Scepter or Doplhin but it looks reasonably so. Maybe I'm just hoping too much. Perhaps it's an indicator that Daiwa is on the road to a long cast reel of similar design, - HPD



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Posted October 05 2007 - 9:54 PM

where do they get names for reels? lol. Catalina is the name of a local island here in socal. and okuma has a catalina series...

but the reel looks prosising. after HPD gets his hands on one and posts a report (like her usually does) i may have to get one if its really all its cracked up to be.


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Posted October 05 2007 - 10:01 PM

From what I see here, this looks like a pretty nice reel! Thanks for all the information that you have found. I don't see why it wouldn't make a good surf reel. The spool looks long enough. It definitely has enough line capacity. I never really did much jigging before, so I am really not an authority on this type of fishing. I always thought that conventional reels were used for jigging? I have never heard of a spinning reel designed for this purpose. Seems odd for a spinning reel to be designed for the purpose of jigging.



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Posted October 05 2007 - 10:29 PM

the daiwa freams J (J means Jigging= is a cheaper alternative to the catalina) it has sealed drag as well and the body is as strong as the saltiga. the freams J are at $120.
here's alist of off-shore reels.
http://fishing.daiwa....ry00=9,120,313



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Posted October 06 2007 - 12:16 AM

Glad to see others are interested. Note, I believe that this is a Japanese Domestic model and the major Japanese Tackle sites seem to have it in stock.
There appear to be two models (high speed and normal)...just like the Saltiga-Z.

The normal model has a 5.1 gear ratio while the high speed is 5.7



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Posted October 06 2007 - 12:23 AM

I went to Daiwa's website to see if I could find out more about this reel. There is no information at all about the Catalina, in fact they do not not even make any mention of it on the site. All I could find was information about the Saltiga. I copied some of the information about the Saltiga reel:

This reel is not a Saltiga-Z. It seems more like the Saltiga Blast and the price range is very similar. It is probably a souped up blast (more gaskets and machined handle). But it is not a Z. I own the Saltiga-Z 6000...they are top end reels.



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Posted October 06 2007 - 6:42 AM

HPD & HellRhaY-

Though bigger, that spool design is very similar to my Daiwa Tierra & the new 2007 series of Daiwa reels that have waterproof drags. I can attest that the Tierra does indeed do a great job of casting for distance & laying down braid as I used it often this year until my (ghast) frequent dunkings made turning the handle an exercise in weight lifting. It did do a slightly better on casting & definately better on laying down braid than my SS2600, one of the original long casting spools designs. Of course, that reel has taken dunkings & is still going strong.

Let's hope - Manny