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#1 Doktorfaustus77

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Posted June 01 2006 - 8:21 PM

How does one go about catching sea bass? Are they highly predatory or more scavenger like? What type of conditions do they prefer? Not asking spots, just some tips to start in the right direction.


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Posted June 02 2006 - 6:15 AM

They like structure. When I jig for them around MV I was catching them on my fluke rig! don't forget the squid


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Posted June 02 2006 - 6:35 AM

Doktorfaustus77 I will give you my take on the Black Sea bass fishing.

One is able to catch them from the shore line in certain areas, but overall one really needs a boat to be productive.

During the mating season they can be very active, and agrerssive especially the blue dog[Males} One is able to determine if you have a male or a female once hooked in most cases. as the males can put up a hard fight for there size The females are more black in color, before the majority become males at about three years of age when they take on a more chariristic blue green head with a knob on top.

During the mating season one can define an area in the water where they are doing there thing if you know what to look for. Once this has been established it is possable to mark and generally do very well in the catching department.

Some will fish for them with just bait on a hook, squid and clams or in some cases sand eels will work, but they make short work of any soft bait, so most stay with squid as a primary bait. They will also pick up small crabs as well and have no problem with the sharp teeth they have to devour about any type of bait you might offer. Just make sure you have plenty when you decide to go. As they do make short work and with other fish around like scup you can be baiting up after every drop down.

My preferred way is with a small jig and the color that is close to what they might be working on for food, white, green,gold, will work at different times and the lightest jig you can offer the better your catch rate will be.

We generallyu will place a small diagonal piece of squid on the hook as an added attractor and scent finder.
One needs to experiment on the lenght and width as I find every day is a little different as to what they want in this regard.

If you use squid use every part of the squid for bait.

Now I like moving water as the bass seem to get more in tune to attacking the offerings, but it does make it easier to hook up as well.

When the water is dead and you have no motion, leave it right on the bottom and in most case they will pick it up from the bottom and enhale it.

My recommendation on the type of rod is one that has a soft tip that will bend under the intial strike and run of the sea bass , especially the blue dogs as they will slam you down when they feel the hook.

Keep the drag on the reel so that it can work properly on those first runs if you have it to tight and have a stiff unforgiving rod you will lose more then you bring up.
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When you use the longer strips of squid one can feel them sucking it down once you understand what is happening before they strike. Finger on the line [Braid ] will enhance your feel and then you just sneak up on them with a short quik snap of the rod. You are not jigging for cod so shorter strokes are better and once you get the hang of it it will be all down hill after that.

One can aslo catch other species with this same approach, like fluke,scup,blue fish, toutog and striped bass. Good luck in your venture and if any one would like to add any thing to help our young friend I hope you do so


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Posted June 02 2006 - 1:30 PM

Angler.........I'm curious.

I know you've made early AM steams to the sea bass grounds with our good friend David over the past two weeks or so, but just how many sea bass or pounds of sea bass have you personally caught over the past weeks ?

Yes, I plan to eat the sea bass fillets you gave me, probably next week. No need to ask me about it again.

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Posted June 02 2006 - 1:56 PM

All I know is that nearly everyone that I caught, I caught while blackfishing(Togs)! Can't say I ever targerted them.


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Posted June 02 2006 - 3:26 PM

Thanks for all of the tips. Angler #1 I will add your advice to the growing store of fishing truths in my head. I don't have a boat, but I may hop on my kayak and try a certain mid cape river which I hear holds these fish.

One more question please These fish, are they similar to other fish in that they are more inclined to feed at the margins of the day, or are they more active at night, or does it not matter what the time of day is?

I had no idea about their crossdressing habits either! fascinating.


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Posted June 02 2006 - 4:10 PM

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To be honest I have never tried fishing for them in the dark, but have found that the early morning changes to work the best. Good action can also be had during the bright of day. Just remember to use the sun screen

The bite slows some what when the current is in the changing period, but if the wind is blowing like it was the other day the bite becomes active during the slack period, but it does make it a little harder when the water is in a full change mode along with the wind. One can still feel the strikes as long as you let the line out in free spool, but this can get a little tricky when you need to stick the fish that is jumping all over the place and engage your reel at the same time.

Brother Joe I do not believe telling you how many pounds that i have personally caught in the past severel weeks is important, but suffice it to say that I held up my end of the boat and we have 36 meals put away so far for the rest of the year, plus sharing some with friends that once they try it will be convinced that Sea Bass is some great eating fish that most do not know how great a fish it is to eat along with for its size a dynamite fighter as well.

Fishing is fishing whether you go for striped bass or sea bass, it is all about the experience and you can learn another way to enjoy what is offered up by the sea gods in the process.


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Posted June 06 2006 - 10:24 AM

What type of jigs do you use? Diamonds?


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Posted June 06 2006 - 4:31 PM

Young Moon we normaly will use a SPRO jig in the 2 or 3 ounce range, colors mentioned above.

When they are on white a normal bucktail jig should do the trick as well.
I am in the process of evaluting another type when I can get it in the size I want to Use.

I would also mention that placing a stinger hook above the jig with just a red curly tail does work as well


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Posted June 08 2006 - 10:29 AM

Thanx Angler #1


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Posted June 08 2006 - 11:37 AM

Hi Angler1,
I seem to have found this black sea bass bite for the past couple of weekends. If I may call on your experience, I was wondering how much longer can we expect this blessed event to continue?


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Posted June 08 2006 - 11:49 AM


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Originally Posted by MeanJean


Hi Angler1,

I seem to have found this black sea bass bite for the past couple of weekends. If I may call on your experience, I was wondering how much longer can we expect this blessed event to continue?





Your blessed event coincides with their working on their blessed events

In other words, they're making baby sea bass right now. Enjoy it while it lasts.

A young girl named Jennifer brought a nice 5-1/2 pounder into M&Ds a few days ago. I'll check later on (if I can make it over there) to see whether some others have come in over the last 2-3 days.


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Posted June 09 2006 - 9:50 AM

Mean jean as stated above by Ditch once they do there thing the bite will decrease some what as they become more dispersed after the ritual of mating is over. I do not think that will be for another week or two, judging from the amount of roe still in the females we are catching. Can they still be caught the answer is yes , but it will take a little more patience and a little luck.

The Fluke and Scup fishing can be very rewarding during this time frame as they enjoy the caveir and smaller ones to eat.

We had some spitting up Smelt yesterday and once placed on a hook produced an rapid hook up.

It looks like a good year for fluke if one is not afraid to be a little inovated epecially on the habitat areas one normally fishes.


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Posted June 09 2006 - 9:54 AM

Angler.......understand ya retired early last night.

Rough day on the Bay?

Joe Jee


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Posted June 09 2006 - 9:59 AM

It indeed was a good day out in the bay yesterday and I did get my body tested a little bit, but I did recover from an extended battle with the blue dogs of summer and flatties that kept the rod in an arched position for most of the day


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