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#1 alaskansteve

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Posted February 14 2006 - 3:33 AM

Don't know if any of you guys have seen these stoves. I've got one in my wife's studio where she does her stained glass work.They run on #1 diesel fuel or kerosene,have a set back thermostat, blower fan and are vented outside so no smell in the house, the exhaust pipe is double walled so they use outside air for combustion & exhaust the fumes out in the same pipe. They don't burn much fuel. Come in a couple of different sizes. Lots of folks up here heat their whole houses with them. They would be great to heat a shop or part of a house with.

this is the inlet/exhaust pipe, looking down at it from top of stove, its a EZ install



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Posted February 14 2006 - 10:12 AM

Nice idea.
How expensive?



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Posted February 14 2006 - 11:05 AM

Very nice!!
I use a Rinnai ventless propane convection, but I like this even better.
How much for the unit and when you say it uses little fuel, how little.
I go through a 100 lb cylinder about every two weeks and I'd love to pinch that one in the bud.
It's nearly $90 a tank for me.
Also, how many BTUs?
Thanks!


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Posted February 14 2006 - 11:38 AM

I like it too ...
how large is the room you're heating with it? Are you supplementing a heating system/zone that's already in the room with this? How far down do you set it when not using the room? And when she goes in there and turns it up, how long before it's comfortable?


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Posted February 14 2006 - 11:39 AM

oh, and is it functioning when no one's around? Do you trust it unattended?


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#6 eastendlu

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Posted February 14 2006 - 12:09 PM

I just did a search and it looks like a great unit.Can not find pricing but will call to see what it goes for.Thanks for the info



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Posted February 14 2006 - 12:32 PM


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They run on #1 diesel fuel or kerosene,have a set back thermostat, blower fan and are vented outside so no smell in the house, the exhaust pipe is double walled so they use outside air for combustion & exhaust the fumes out in the same pipe. They don't burn much fuel. Come in a couple of different sizes.


Steve, couple more questions ...
what are you using for a fuel container? How large is it? How often do you need to refill it?

Do you have a feeder line bringing the fuel into the studio from outside to the unit?


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Posted February 14 2006 - 12:44 PM

These appear to be the spec's for Steve's little gem...
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Toyotomi Laser L-56
Fuel Type 1-K Grade Kerosene or No. 1 Fuel Oil
Electric Rating AC 120V, 60Hz
Heating Efficiency 87% (AFUE Rating)
Heating Rating 22,000 BTU/Hr (high)
15,000 BTU/Hr (medium)
8,000 BTU/Hr (low)
Size (WxHxD) 24-3/8" x 26-3/4" x 16"
Weight 60 lbs (empty)
Heating Area (FT2) 920 (0°F) 1,100 (20°F)
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I believe the stated maximum burn rate (on HIGH) was about 1 gallon every 5 hours or so, and maybe 8 hours on MEDIUM.



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Posted February 14 2006 - 12:46 PM

ok ... Laser 56
1-K kerosene or #1 fuel oil
AC 120V, 60Hz
87% (AFUE Rating)
22,000 BTU/Hr. (high)
15,000 BTU/Hr. (med.)
8,000 BTU/Hr. (low)
24-3/8" x 26-3/4" x 16"
60 lbs. (empty)
920 sq. ft. (0°F)
1,100 sq. ft. (20°F)
Removable or Exterior Tank
at 0 degrees it'll heat 920 sq ft - is that what that spec indicates?


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Posted February 14 2006 - 12:52 PM

Can't get a price on it.



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Posted February 14 2006 - 12:58 PM

i know there are some restrictions on where you can use a kerosene space heater...i don't know about the vented units
years ago kerosene heaters were pretty deadly and were outlawed because of all the accidents



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Posted February 14 2006 - 12:58 PM

That's what it says... but with a grain of salt, so to speak. That's 920 sf at 0 degrees outside, with optimum conditions (R-39 insulation, 6" walls, etc.). That unit will probably set you back roughly a grand plus shipping to your door, but seems to have a very reliable track record... especially in Alaska where it gets alot colder in winter.
As Gads likes to note: your mileage may vary.



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Posted February 14 2006 - 1:04 PM

20 BTUH per square foot is a reasonable figure for modern construction
I'd hazard a guess that the info the manufacturer has printed is accurate.



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Posted February 14 2006 - 1:54 PM

Check out this guys site, he seems like a straight shooter on these things, i found it on google the other night,
Al's Discount Heating
65-B Harpswell St. or P.O. Box 55
Brunswick, Maine 04011
My wife's playhouse is 12x20 with a upstairs, 2x6 construction & its the only heat in there. The toyo we have is a older model laser 55 ,like a 1988, and i bought it from a friend of mine who used it to heat his house, aprox 1500sq.ft, with. I have a 55gal drum w/a filter on it outside the cabin that i keep fuel in & just run a copper line into the cabin to feed the stove. The stove comes with a 2gal? removeable fuel tank but its better to run it off the big tank, i've got a 250gal tank i have to hook up to it when i get time. We leave the stove set at 45 degrees when she not working in the place but it heats the place up in like 15 min. when she needs to work in there. I have never heard of a fire being caused by one of these stoves and there are thousands of them being used out in the villages. I bet you wouldn't burn more than 1-1/2gal of fuel a day with one of these and keep a place nice & cozy with it. A friend of mine who lives on the eastern shore of VA. has one and he loves it, its in a big old drafty house and it works fine for them. I'll try and get some more pics of the installation and post them later today.
Those RENAI stoves are supposed to be one of the best for heating with natural gas or propane, lots of them in use in this country also.



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Posted February 14 2006 - 3:50 PM

Al's heating says ...
"If you will notice...Al's Heating does NOT have a 'Click-n-Buy' Web-site and that is because more than 1/2 of the Customers who call me have already decided on the WRONG SIZED Heater using some archaic heating formula or their Aunt Emily's dowsing-rod.
I am a Heating Engineer - NOT a ***** on the street corner begging for a 'Cheap Trick' just to make a sale like many other Sites And like any another Science, Correct Heater Sizing is very precise and easily done wrong by those NOT in the Heating Business - and more often by those who are!
Customers who are on 'The Cheep' say 'lets get the smaller one and save money' - where-upon the Small Heater burns itself out in a short time by running SUPER RED-HOT on High during the coldest nights.
The other WRONG philosophy is 'Hey, the Big-one is only $200 more - let's go for 'bigger is better' where-upon the Big Heater Short-cycles itself to death being in too small an area for that unit."
you've got me thinking bout those Ranai LP now Steve


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