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Hurricane Fluke Mine ball jigs......BEWARE!!!


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#1 hipkvw

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Posted May 10 2004 - 7:26 PM

OK so I see the ball jigs in Wal Mart for half the price of tackle shops. I am a "get what you pay for guy" but I buy them and try them. These things kicked azz! I use them a lot. Caught many fluke to say 23-24". So I am out with Capt.Block and I set the hook on what felt like a monster fluke and my hook snaps off the ball jig! I was a little PO'd and thought about it and wanted to check the hooks on all of them. Tonight I checked them. They were so brittle they would snap like toothpicks!!! Ones that were used I could snap with my finger tips and not even enough pressure to break 2 pound test line. I wish you guys could see how easy they broke because 2 pound test junk line is probably stronger. Now I did this on like 20 jigs so it wasnt just one. The hooks are junk!!! They will be replaced with custom tied Mustads or Gami's. It makes me sick to lose a fish because of junk tackle!!!!


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#2 Ben Lippen

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Posted May 10 2004 - 7:29 PM

Probably get grief about this. But they were probably made in China or some other crap third world country that has no standards.


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Posted May 10 2004 - 7:39 PM

That sucks. i hate it when you lose a fish because of crappy made tackle. i have a bunch of what you are talkin about but i changed the hooks as soon as i got em. the only reason i started buying them was to put hollow fleyes on them and they work great.. hopefully the heads arent crappy cause i got alot of em..


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Posted May 10 2004 - 7:49 PM

Hooks are one of the handful of things yah just can't be too careful of. After all the expenses of gas, bait, lures, line, rod, reels, travel, missing work, agravating those waiting for us on shore, etc - exactly how important is saving .10 on a hook?
Think about the connection you have with the goal of all your expenditures - the fish. These are the most important two...this goes for all kinds of fishing, all kinds of fish, anywhere on the planet
Hook: Don't cheap out, get good, solid, 3X or 4X hooks - keep them razor sharp, not just once a trip when you realize it's dull, but every single time you check yer rig, check yer hook. Two things that don't leave my sight while fishing are nippers and hook sharpeners. Ask anyone I fish with, I'll sharpen hooks that Gamakatsu would be proud to sell Cheap hooks lose less fish than dull hooks...cause you gotta hook 'em to lose 'em
Knots: Don't be too lazy to learn how to tie good, strong, durable and consistent knots. What good is a strong, sharp hook with a double granny knot?
There's a lotta ways to lose a nice fish...many yah can't do anything about - it's the ones that we could have prevented that haunt our dreams
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Posted May 10 2004 - 9:05 PM

The hooks they come with are crap. After you use them once they gotta be changed. Best bet is to tie a snelled hook to a short piece of mono to the chrome ball, say 6-8". You'll also notice a better hook-set ratio. Just my 2 cents...


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Posted May 10 2004 - 9:11 PM

If ya buy Skips you don't have to worry about such things. I tried the others then bought a pile of them from Skip ..... quality product with quality hardware.
Tis true ... ya get what ya pay for.


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Posted May 10 2004 - 9:30 PM


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Originally posted by Fish Wish:
If ya buy Skips you don't have to worry about such things. I tried the others then bought a pile of them from Skip ..... quality product with quality hardware.
Tis true ... ya get what ya pay for.



Thats whats tied on for tomorrow


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#8 DeadlyDick

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Posted May 10 2004 - 9:35 PM


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Originally posted by Ben Lippen:
Probably get grief about this. But they were probably made in China or some other crap third world country that has no standards.


ben, please say "developing world" ...id like u to be politically correct with ur insults


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Posted May 11 2004 - 5:53 AM

The reason that that the hooks are breaking is that they are being opened wrong to put them on the fluke mines and then closed wrong as well.
Either you or the manufacturer need to use mustad hooks that are made open eye and sold as open eye hooks. Then they can be closed and not be AS brittle as regular closed eye hooks that have been opened wrong.
The best way to open closed eye hooks is with a hole punch and a slightly open vice and punch the holes open slowly and evenly .... and close them in a vice slowly and carefully.
Try that.
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Posted May 11 2004 - 6:05 AM

Ball jigs are OK but...
When are you guys gonna start using Andrus Fluke darts (white bucktails) in 3, 4, 5 1/4 and 6 oz sizes ?
He even makes some of them with stainless steel hooks so they don't rust up in the box between trips.
They outcatch my shiny fluke balls 5 to 1 if not more.
You can even get some 8 oz fluke darts if you want to wait for them.
Put large green prizm witchcraft eyes on all of them and hold on.
R.


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Posted May 11 2004 - 6:09 AM

Hip - It's common knowledge the hooks need to be replaced on most of the silver bullets. So you are basically paying for the ball, and a swivel. The best thing about the Hurricane's is they are so cheap compared to everything else. Who cares if you have to throw the hook out? MOst have crappy synhetic hair on there anyway. Learn to tie your own.
Replacement hooks for teasers - The strongest open eye hooks Tim has (at least he used to have) in the On-line store. VMC's, I think size 3/0 would suit you fine.


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#12 Billy 40

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Posted May 11 2004 - 6:11 AM


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Originally posted by Rhodester:
Ball jigs are OK but...
When are you guys gonna start using Andrus Fluke darts (white bucktails) in 3, 4, 5 1/4 and 6 oz sizes ?



I also hate the silver bullet, and prefer to use BT's myself. Problem is, the hook on them is enormous, and if you are fishing an area where htey are a lot of smaller fish, hook up % goes down. Of course if you are targetting large fish, who cares about missing smaller one.


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Posted May 11 2004 - 6:33 AM

Billy,
Andrus makes them with 5/0 and 6/0 stainless hooks on request which are smaller and work great.
Even the 8 oz has a 7/0 stainless which works fine.
I buy and use Mustad 34009 4/0 stainless stinger hooks with a small piece of clear plastic tubing over the eye and punched though and over the bigger hook. I use a long 7" strip of X large squid and hook it to both hooks at the same time.
I catch all size fluke with these jigs.
R.


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#14 hipkvw

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Posted May 11 2004 - 8:12 AM

I do tie my own. I change most of my hooks on lures with quality hooks. My thinking was they are just fluke, who cares. Well I learned my lesson. I do use Andrus darts. Ill have to try the bigger ones. Thanks for all the tips guys.


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Posted May 11 2004 - 9:24 AM

Wow. I just so happen to have 2 in my Battle Box. I will tinker with them later and see if I can break em lol.
Thanks for the heads up


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