Top is a 1/0 (wet) deceiver keeled and with a little extra weight for river mouths. Bottom is a synthetic rays fly with material from FTD and a 1/0 also.
fshng2, 1st I,m using danville 3/0 white thread which I can use a sharpie to match the material, then I use Bondic to fill in between and coat the eyes, clean with alcohol and coat with Sally Hansens.