PENN Fishing

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  • About Me:
    A proud supporter of Stripers Online to answer any questions about PENN products and provide service
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    Helping Stripers Online members with service. Send us a PM and we will be happy to help.
  • What I do for a living:
    Design and manufacture high quality fishing gear for saltwater anglers.
  1. The 900 baitcast reels have been discontinued since mid 2016. Ben
  2. Not going to argue with you... but to simplify "plastic is plastic, no matter what is in it" is simply wrong on a lot of levels. Ben
  3. Not true.. We don't use "cheap plastic rotor's" on anything. The rotors in question are not metal, but a very rigid carbon material. Polymers/carbon (graphite) materials (and mixes of the bunch) now are leaps and bounds above those 10 years ago. Heck, just compare the strength of the Conflict II with an older "plastic" reel and you'll quickly see what I mean. More than adequate for the drag pressures and stresses on it. Ben
  4. Haha. I’m not reading back through everything but It looks like BeachBum is beginning to argue with himself. Mike
  5. We don’t advertise/claim/market a dust rating....which you’ve already mentioned. I’m not sure why you’re getting hung up on that....I’m not concerned with dust.....we don’t test for dust.....hence the X. Now I’m trying to move the conversation along to a suitable topic to where we are....SOL. I’m asking you about real world/saltwater/sand.......but I can’t get an answer. Mike
  6. You didn’t answer either of my questions.....but I think you already know that. Mike
  7. We've been through this already....but let's go for another spin. PENN's definition isn't what I'd call broad....I'd consider it narrow. No saltwater inside the reel when tested under IPX6 standards. None. 3rd party tester asks the manufacturer to define harmful. Saltwater is harmful to internals/metals/bearings/etc. Mike
  8. Serious questions.... If a reel won't let water inside.....is it possible for sand to get inside? Is a grain of sand bigger than a water molecule? I'll hang up and listen. Mike
  9. Ben
  10. Fishy - I know I already answered your exact question in a private message but I'll answer it again since you keep bringing it up.. For the record you asked "if we had rated the first Torque, what rating we would give it?".. This was my response. "We can't answer that... We changed up some seals, and it's an entirely new reel vs the original torque. No sense in us wasting the time, effort and money to go back and retroactively IP rate discontinued reels. -Ben" A lot of the seals are the same. We eliminated one entire sideplate from the Torque II vs the Torque and also moved the sideplate screws from the inside of the body seal to the outside. I think everyone would agree those are welcome changes?? We then put a rating on it as IPX6. How it gets used in the field is beyond the point, it's based on the rating we gave it with the question that you asked. You had an issue with your reel. I get that, things happen, and we made it right as we should. I think you would agree with that. Ben
  11. To add to what Mike said above... In response to some comments I have seen in here about "well if it still works right after it's been completely flooded with water, it passes", you guys are completely misconstruing what these IP ratings mean, and quite frankly aren't getting the point at all. We set our test standards like this.. If ANY water gets into our reels during these tests (doesn't matter if it is fresh or salt during the test, that point is mute, because that does not affect if water gets in) it is deemed a failure and does not get the certification. We design our reels to salt standards only, and because any and all saltwater is detrimental to the interior of reels, that is why we put that restriction on it. BeachBum... Not exactly sure why you keep bringing up the dust rating... but I never thought I'd see the day where I get dinged on a water seal rating in a fishing reel (on a saltwater forum) because it's not rated for dust.. Please show me pictures of the reels that you have had killed by dust.. Ben
  12. We're on SOL, and you're having a conversation directly with PENN. We talk saltwater around here....period. When we 3rd party test reels they asked us to define harmful. Saltwater inside a spinning reel is harmful, especially over time, regardless of whether you tear down your reel and service it after every use. Also keep in mind that constantly opening a sealed reel is exactly what you don't want to do....very bad for the seals which are somewhat fragile. Mike
  13. Any volume of saltwater would be deemed harmful (this is the key word)....as the salt will eventually collect, corrode, and work it's way into the bearings, drag system, gears, etc. What's your definition of harmful? Mike
  14. Sealing isn't everything when it comes to price Evil-Bay. The price difference between SSVI and SLAIII is this... 1.) SSVI has an aluminum CNC main gear in the 2500-5500, brass in the 6500-10500. All pinions are brass. Slammer uses brass main gear in all sizes. 2.) SSVI has carbon rotors from 2500-5500, aluminum 6500-10500. Slammer uses all aluminum rotors. 3.) SSVI has a top stack HT-100 drag setup. Slammer uses the bottom stack, Dura-Drag setup with higher max drags (also known as the Slammer drag). 4.) Slammer does also have a fully machined handle knob that runs on two extra bearings. SSVI has our standard rubber knobs. FWIW if you want another handle, the Slammer handles and SSVI handle assemblies are interchangeable, and we sell them in our parts department. Slammer was designed and built like a tank, with very high drags and the internals to go along with it. Ben